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	<title>Comments on: Describing participatory leadership</title>
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	<description>Alive in the process arts</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jascha...thanks for your comment.  It&#039;s interesting that you perceive this table as claiming that one is better than the other.  I certainly don&#039;t experience it that way and in fact, you might note that the title of the Participatory leadership column says &quot;complimenting.&quot;  I agree that context is important.  Some of these participatory leadership methods and principles have no place in hierarchical situations, nor do we make a claim for them there.  Sometimes hierarchies and bureaucracies are the appropriate structure to get things done.

I notice that you do the same thing on your website, in order to make a distinction between what you do and what you don&#039;t do.  No shame in that, and in fact its quite helpful to understand the distinction.  

Thanks for your comment, especially the last paragraph, which is a succinct description of participation.  

The reason for using the language of participatory leadership is to open up space in traditional organizational structures for forms of shared leadership that might actually get better results.  The traditional approach is not always the best way, but sometimes its master practitioners cannot see another way.  This table is an attempt to present possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jascha&#8230;thanks for your comment.  It&#8217;s interesting that you perceive this table as claiming that one is better than the other.  I certainly don&#8217;t experience it that way and in fact, you might note that the title of the Participatory leadership column says &#8220;complimenting.&#8221;  I agree that context is important.  Some of these participatory leadership methods and principles have no place in hierarchical situations, nor do we make a claim for them there.  Sometimes hierarchies and bureaucracies are the appropriate structure to get things done.</p>
<p>I notice that you do the same thing on your website, in order to make a distinction between what you do and what you don&#8217;t do.  No shame in that, and in fact its quite helpful to understand the distinction.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, especially the last paragraph, which is a succinct description of participation.  </p>
<p>The reason for using the language of participatory leadership is to open up space in traditional organizational structures for forms of shared leadership that might actually get better results.  The traditional approach is not always the best way, but sometimes its master practitioners cannot see another way.  This table is an attempt to present possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jascha Rohr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jascha Rohr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don´t find these traditional/new charts very helpful. It looks as if everything traditional was bad and the new way (in this case participatory leadership) is always the opposite of how it was done before.

In our practice of participatory design and leaderhsip we focus on the context, connect to the common field of all participateurs and from there we move into a generative process which establishes our structures of interaction. That means there is no right or wrong, no traditional or new way, but only approriate to the context or not appropriate to the context.

For this kind of practice one has to stay aware and open and embrace traditional ways in the same way as new innovative ways.

Participation in our understanding is allowing everthing and everyone to contribute in its own potential, allowing us to act accordingly without any fixed mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don´t find these traditional/new charts very helpful. It looks as if everything traditional was bad and the new way (in this case participatory leadership) is always the opposite of how it was done before.</p>
<p>In our practice of participatory design and leaderhsip we focus on the context, connect to the common field of all participateurs and from there we move into a generative process which establishes our structures of interaction. That means there is no right or wrong, no traditional or new way, but only approriate to the context or not appropriate to the context.</p>
<p>For this kind of practice one has to stay aware and open and embrace traditional ways in the same way as new innovative ways.</p>
<p>Participation in our understanding is allowing everthing and everyone to contribute in its own potential, allowing us to act accordingly without any fixed mindset.</p>
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